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Tom Karnes's avatar

I got childhood asthma, my kid brother got MS, thought he was just punking us to live a $ rich life on Buchanan Drive, a duplex in Sausalito with a daily regiment of juicing, extracting, vitamin popping, extreme outdoor activities including mountain biking, snow boarding, skate dancing, then it all went to hell in a hand basket; hay doc, where does it come from? We don't know. Hay doc, how do we... can't, cycle of life and death. That was September 2019, wait for it, that's right, the planet literally tilted 180 degrees on its axis and we were staring into the very jaws of hell... Oh you want a cheeseburger, take the shot, there it was, right there the whole time, just couldn't see it, now where did I put my father's 44

Judy.  Electrifried's avatar

There is no such thing as autoimmune disease. The body does not attack itself. It is trying to get rid of something that does not belong: metals, plastics, vaccine ingredients, silicone, synthetic stuff, fake boobs, joint replacement materials...

When it appears that the body is attacking itself, it is working hard to get rid of non-self materials. If our body's systems can't eliminate something, they often encapsulate it. Toxin control may become damaged tissue. It's kind of like when you have a sliver in your finger and you try to dig it out with a needle. There's pus and torn skin.

When people take immune suppressants, they are stopping the body's systems from doing their jobs. Bacteria are Emergency Medical Team and cleanup crew. Taking antibiotics can be life-saving when necessary. But, killing the bacteria is overall counterproductive. Those workers are needed.

The body knows self from non-self. Our bodies are programmed to recognize all natural things. Our bodies know meat from broccoli. They know beta carotene from arsenic. They are not programmed to recognize synthetic substances, so kind of freak out when unnatural substances are introduced. They have to find clever ways of dealing with substances that are not natural as well as things in the wrong habitat.

Our bodies know what to do with harmful substances if they are INGESTED or come into contact with the skin. INJECTION is a different matter. Substances that are injected don't come through normal pathways. They are like terrorists coming down the chimney instead of through the doors.

One of the early vaccinologists was Charles Richet. He made an art out of poisoning dogs and people by injecting venom/poison. He figured out a precise schedule to create "autoimmunity," allergy, or anaphylaxis. He was awarded a nobel prize for this.

It has been found that disease conditions such as Alzheimer's, Autism, Multiple Sclerosis, Some coronary artery disease, ALS/Lou Gehrig's disease, Crohn's disease, seizure disorders, bone and joint disease, as well as some others are caused by aluminum. The aluminum may be in the brain, in the joints and bones, in the arteries, or in the gut. The body is trying to deal with the aluminum, and this is what causes damage.

I'm sure there are other factors in these diseases as well.

Aluminum is everywhere in the environment. It is in the air, the water, the soil, crops, processed foods, beverage cans, pet food cans, cookware, and personal care products. It is even in baby formula and in women's menstrual care products such as tampons. It is in table salt. It is in over the counter drugs as well as in some other medical products. Farmers report rising levels of aluminum in the soil. Soils are more acidic because of the environment and fertilizer choices, and that makes aluminum even more toxic.

Ingestion? Inhalation? Injection?

Aluminum is a neurotoxin that inhibits more than 200 biologically important functions and causes adverse effects in plants, animals, and humans. Aluminum displaces minerals, and it interferes with normal processes such as bone growth and brain functions.

Aluminum is used as an adjuvant in vaccines. Vaccines are the main route aluminum gets into the body. Each vaccine increases the body burden of aluminum as well as other toxins in the vaccines.

The exciting thing is that aluminum can be eliminated by the mineral silica in the form of orthosilicic acid from silica-rich spring waters such as Fiji water. Silica neutralizes aluminum, and the body safely excretes it through the kidneys.

Silica supplements don't work. It must be in the orthosilicic acid form from mineral springs. You can make your own silica water by following Dr. Dennis Crouse's instructions. (See below). For me, I would rather have the silica-rich spring water because it comes with complementary electrolytes and other minerals. Silica-rich spring water is very hydrating, which is a big deal in regards to our current water and health issues.

AND, silica is a very awesome mineral that supports body structural framework, collagen, connective tissue, bone density, skin, hair, teeth, liver, kidney, intestinal membranes. It also may improve memory. Silica deficiency causes structural deformities.

I am wondering what inhaled aluminum does to the sinuses and lungs. Aluminum is in the atmosphere from weather modification and other sources.

Silica. Silicon. Ortho-silicic Acid, Silicone. Not the same.

See:

Unbekoming on Substack. Many articles about "autoimmune" conditions.

Dr. Chris Exley and Dr. Dennis Crouse. Substack, Websites, books, and YouTube.

Pubmed lists many research articles with various authors regarding aluminum and silica.

Dr Yehuda Shoenfeld. ASIA Syndrome Autoimmune/Inflammatory Syndrome Induced by Adjuvants. Two of the substances discussed are aluminum and silicone.

My son was diagnosed with Crohn's disease when he was 16. He is 44 now. His life has been kinda crappy. I always thought the concept of autoimmune disease was stupid. I thought it was really stupid to suppress the immune system. I also believe that cutting body parts out is generally not a really good idea.

George94's avatar
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Dr Morse said autoimmune diseases don't exist. If someone uses this word it means they don't have a clue what they are talking about. It simply means your lymphatic system and they don't have a clue:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD-gkIHB5zg

MamaForestCritter's avatar

I would like to note that pure tobacco naturally contains tar resin that will eventually coat your insides if you smoke enough of it. I worked on a tobacco farm and when you walk through the fields and the leaves brush on your arms you get a layer of tar resin that has to be scrubbed off with a scrub brush.

Barry Morgan's avatar

The term and concept “autoimmunity” has been so over- and mis-used it has become practically useless in medical practice. This is not an accusation. It is a common and inevitable phenomenon in evolving scientific fields. Imvestigators in “new” fields create words to characterize, generally, their results which need to replaced by more specific terms as underlying mechanisms are discovered.

In my early cell biology work we only knew about B-cells and T-cells and made frequent reference to “the MHC” when issues of “self and non-self” reactivity were identified.

Today those terms are too vague to be of value.

The term “autoimmunity” may be headed for the ash heap. 🤓

Sherri Stockman MidlifeRebirth's avatar

Thank you for this post.

I brought up a similar argument in high school biology (way back in the early 1970s) but I didn’t have any information to back it up.

Only the belief that the body is very wise.

Cyndie Fox's avatar

I was diagnosed with cryoglobulinemia the moment I retired 6 yrs ago. Looked for all the potential causes/culprits that might trigger such an unexpected autoimmune reaction/ nothing revealed as a “cause”. I was an overworked but technically healthy (good bmi, active, no diabetes, no high BP, no chronic disease of any kind) I finally felt enough control to do a deeper dive on inflammation, insulin resistance, metabolic issues this year. So little information available on this rare condition, so I am just going to follow the autoimmune literature/research and see if I can reverse this. Still on rituxan and methotrexate which keep my labs acceptable but hate to be taking these poisons for the rest of my years….

TheLastBattleStation's avatar

Still clinging to the “immune system” paradigm. We have a digestive system, a circulatory system, a nervous system, a lymphatic system, but there is no immune system.

Sam Lombardo's avatar

Where's the discussion of B and T cell MHC receptors creation where autoantibodies are selected against but certainly created in the process. You dont think something could go wrong, leak out and propogate? Framing autoimmune as fake without discussing the above sounds like a grift. I'm all for finding treatments though.

Remnant MD's avatar

I've written about B/T/MHC in past articles.

But, do elaborate your point.

Sam Lombardo's avatar

I see now he actually fully denied that random mutations can take place. The main point is mostly semantics and this guy has no idea about the mechanisms. He's speculating and passing it off as certain in all cases

That said, I'm all for lifestyle intervention. And the hypothesis that environmental factors trigger autoimmune seems very plausible for a lot of cases. I could just do without the hyperbole and certainty.

Remnant MD's avatar

You seem to have a reading comprehension problem.

This can lead to much autoimmune disease.

Sam Lombardo's avatar

I can respect pointing out why the old system and way of dealing with "autoimmune" has been ineffective or even worse. I look forward to better causal understanding of these conditions

TheLastBattleStation's avatar

About 30 years ago out of the blue I have rosacea on my face. I go to the doctor and he has no clue, but prescribes an antibiotic cream. Within days it’s worse so I go back to the GP. He refers me to a dermatologist and as soon as he sees me he says “rosacea” and when I tell him I used antibiotic cream, he says that’s the absolute worst thing to do. He prescribes tacrolimus ointment, which he says he created. Tacrolimus is an organ transplant rejection medication, so he had the pharmacist grind up the pills and put them in an ointment. Within a week the rosacea was gone, and it has never returned. It seems modern medicine doesn’t care what the cause is as long as there is a treatment. It also seems “autoimmune” is a good tag to put on a disease when the real cause isn’t determined.

Mary's avatar

My autoimmune disease (IgE >3000) was finally diagnosed by a Dr in India as Strongyloids - a parasite. Treatment took a year - but after two days felt 90% better than I had in decades. Off all Xolair injections and most allergy/asthma meds. Occasionally have to treat for a couple of days if symptoms return. Meds will not eliminate eggs.

Paul Bains's avatar

My daughter was diagnosed with juvenile dermatosisis and told it was fatal illness. Prescribed methotrexate and then prednisone. We accepted this diagnosis and treatment...

AMK's avatar

“The labels are Gospel, and the molecular wizardry used to justify the label is sufficiently esoteric that they cannot penetrate and see behind the curtain.”

Beautifully stated!

Natasha Clarke's avatar

As a herbalist I concur that strengthening the body to be a fundamental approach to healing. Luckily herbs are very effective that way and have been able to dismiss multiple aspects of prescription fixes. And although reductional science can teach us a lot it still pales in comparison when we are working with very complex systems.

Right now I’m fascinated with the effect that zombie cells or incomplete death in cell cycles and how it effects health as well as zeta potential in fluid systems.

SojournerOnSojourn's avatar

Pharma is a poison that may have a beneficial side effect.