For those of you who have been with me since the beginning will recall that this publication started as a way to research and write about my findings during the covid hysteria.
Thanks for this contribution to the virus discussion. Those of us who challenge the evidence to claim that viruses do not exist in the way they are described in ‘virological science’ can refute all the claims made for the existence of viruses and in a scientific way. This was done by Dr. Stefan Lanka. His work has been repeated with the same results. The virologists NEVER carry out the necessary control experiments to be able to say their work is scientific. If they did they would refute themselves.
I think it is important to say that if claims are made for a thing to exist and then if those claims are taken to be fact and if those claims are then used as the prima facie basis by governments and other actors to mandate highly damaging destructive medical protocols across global populations then such an outrage should be called out at the foundational level. This is not a distraction at all. This is massive scientific fraud and it is criminal activity. So it needs to be called out as such.
Another point here is that ‘virology’ is also the foundation for sequencing and genetics - another total can of worms based on what certainly look like fake science. Where is the evidence for the depiction of genetic material as a ‘double helix’ ?
Well, double helix wasn’t generated by virologists. Depending on your interpretation of historical evidence, x-rays were used to generate projections of the structure of intranuclear material.
Again, I’m not arguing that we definitely know that DNA and RNA exists as proposed.
The question is, if cells store and transmit information for the production of its effector semi-conductors (aka proteins), then what does this information represent.
If they do not do that, we now have to wrestle with another question: How DO cells exist?
This puts us at a completely different juncture than simply “viruses do not exist.”
To remove a symptom without addressing the underlying contradiction is to destabilize the organism’s hard-won equilibrium.
The vegetative system stands in a dialectical relation to the entire organism—and to itself. A contradiction within vegetative regulation does not remain localized. It is mirrored across all levels of organization.
At the somatic level, contradiction appears as chronic tension, collapse, asymmetry, or restricted movement.
At the affective level, it appears as emotional blunting, volatility, or persistent unease.
At the cognitive level, it appears as fixation, rumination, or narrowed perception of possibility.
Simultaneously, the organism develops secondary compensations—postural strategies, behavioral patterns, relational defenses, and explanatory narratives—that attempt to support the primary vegetative compromise.
These compensations become integrated into identity. What began as a regulatory necessity is experienced as “who I am.”
Thus, the organism is not only shaped by contradiction; it actively organizes around it.
Compensation is therefore not secondary to disorder—it is the organism’s solution to an impossible regulatory task.
A symptom is the visible or experiential trace of this compensation. It is not the contradiction itself, but the form the contradiction takes once stabilized. Anxiety, depression, chronic pain, dissociation, fatigue, and cognitive rigidity are not primary phenomena. They are the phenomenological expressions of vegetative compensation.
This is why symptoms are so persistent. They are not foreign intrusions into the organism but necessary outcomes of its attempt to regulate under constrained conditions.
The organism always chooses the best possible solution available to it—but the range of solutions depends on the breadth of opportunity. When opportunity is narrow, contradiction hardens into compensation. When opportunity expands, compensation becomes unnecessary.
Vegetative training works by expanding this field of opportunity at its source. By restoring access to spontaneous regulatory movements, it allows contradictions to be metabolized rather than managed. What changes is not will, insight, or belief, but the conditions under which choice becomes possible at all.
You are right about that of course. However, virology follows a reductionist / materialist view of disease and an explanation for it which puts all the focus on the cell as the most important and determining unit of life. This is then brought into genetics and results in the idea that 'genetic mistakes' are a source of disease without there being any scientific proof of this.
It is rather easy to see from 100+ years of failed contagion experiments that viral transmission does not occur, so the commonly held — the 'consensus' disease model can't be correct. An alternative model, that of Germanic New Medicine, focuses on tissues and sees 'symptoms' as a biological healing response to conflict in the organism arising mainly from trauma. This theory /explanation of disease has been known for centuries and is practiced in China but suppressed in the west where 'healthcare' is based on a reductionist / mechanical model of health which requires belief in external pathogens as disease causing agents and suppression of symptoms using pharmaceutical drugs, an approach which has serious problems and contradictions.
In the domain of psychology itself, of course you can. It's psychological, not biological, so you cannot isolate it as a biological entity.
You are probably trying to make the point that a virus is not a biological entity but something else, information I guess. Possibly, but I don't follow the argument after that.
On one hand you state: "It is true that the process by which viruses are “isolated” is full of holes, and does not hold up to scrutiny."
But then you make strong affirmations like: "Below is a diagram of a virus. This virus has a genetic code at the core (RNA or DNA) and is surrounded by some combination of lipid/protein capsules/envelopes. The nature of the “capsomer” and envelope vary from virus to virus. Some have one layer of protection. Some have two. And all manner of combinations."
How do you know what a virus is if it was not isolated properly?
I know what viruses are, regardless of how people would like to depict them.
My point in comparing the diagrams is to show how similar the proposed structure of a virus is to the alleged process of vesicular trafficking, in the language of the biologists themselves. To show that, even in their own language, these two things are indistinguishable.
It's not about claiming that viruses don't exist. Virology seems to be based on a hallucination, that's the problem. Any discussion about viruses has to come to terms with that. We don't need to answer any questions in order to question the current theory
is these “diagrams” and colorized depictions employed and accepted as actual mechanistic explanations — as if such depictions correspond to “how it is at molecular level” not even close. they are necessarily deliberate misrepresentations. the mangling of causation is how “virology” and scamdemic is perpetrated
When you refer something as “unnatural” I become moderately agitated. Can you provide an example of unnatural occurring in nature? Otherwise enjoyable read. Need to read Hans Selye. The OG of Stress
Spike protein, and its effect on ACE2. Spike was in both in COVID and the vaccine. It was definitely some kind of contagion, and shedding was real too.
Thank you for these conversations. The carbon narrative didn’t sit well with me and I’ve been educating myself about regenerative ag and soil. During covid era, which did not sit well either, I signed up for Soilfoodweb schools programs and got a microscope.
When looking with my own eyes at soil biology, what biologically active soil compost looks like, I was a changed man. With soil biology being the basis of pretty much all life above ground, seeing how plants respond to healthy soil and fight off pests and pathogens, have nutrient density, strong seed etc etc, the reality that we are a part of nature, not separate from. We too need quality nutrition for our own vitality, it’s a no brainer.
So in healthy soil where billions of interactions happen between the plants exuding sugars to feed the microbes to mine the sand, silts and clays for the nutrients the plant needs at that moment. chemical
signalling is happening in spades. Epigenetic effects from these chemical signals and the interaction with viruses as packets of info playing a role here too. Pathogens can be outcompeted by the good guys. If conditions change, maybe the pathogens can take advantage.
Foundational health is no different and it starts with the soil, what the plants eat, who eats that plant and what we eat. If we are nourished by good food and the associated microbes that come with, we will also build our castle wall to prevent pathogens, in whatever form, from setting up house.
So I come here to learn about a more holistic, natural way to be healthy and not only listen to big pharma or big ag. Life begets life. Not a pill for every ill.
So keep it coming so I can wade through this information battle informed.
I’m agree that it’s a distraction. I also feel like they simply changed the name of virus to toxin, even admitting that if someone is detoxifying it can cause someone else to detoxify. So basically the same phenomenon—different term.
That's like saying the debate over the realness/ fakeness of 'unicorns' is a distraction.
I mean in the context of a worldwide shut down of the economy for more than a year and a unicorn repellant spray program which has killed 15+ million people and caused many more injuries and disabilities and which may have sterilised an entire generation (we will find out in 20 years time).
The most basic and uncontroversial virology control experiments (using the same CROs that big pharma uses) has utterly blown apart the claim that 'viruses' are anything more than inert cellular debris.
They are nothing burgers which have been used as patsies for the most despicable crimes in the modern era.
To call this deception 'a distraction' is an insult to the billions who have been killed and injured by this most evil perversion of science. The level of suffering and loss caused by this 'distraction' is beyond comprehension and will have repercussions for generations to come, if not centuries.
All of it could have been avoided by simply listening to the 'no virus' / ' no contagion' camp as they tried to warn the public of this science fraud in the late 1800's .... the early 20th century..... the late 20th century.... the early 2000's and finally in 2020.
Instead society chose to ignore them, mostly because nobody wanted to be labelled a 'virus denier'.
Wow, you really are getting to be quite the master of nuance. “Packets of information”, I’d never have thought of that, but it rings so true when I read it. I recall mentioning that when I’ve challenged (known, not bots) ‘no virus’ people stating I am proponent of terrain theory, but I still feel even if virus particles hadn’t been isolated, that didn’t mean there was nothing (like no microorganism) acting like a virus or whatever anyone wishes to label it. Despite the fact that they are real people, they never respond to that. But your “packets of information” is so much more all-encompassing and reflective of the amazing way nature works, and accurate which I can now see. Also, though you cited some technicalities, your explanation was still easy to read/understand. Thank you.
Thank you for taking this one on! I will read your article thoroughly, but I have believed it is another distraction campaign away from the truth (little t) for a long time. I am a veterinarian and have witnessed viral epidemics sweep through kennels of dogs and cats, litters of puppies and kittens. so yes, something is being transmitted killing these animals. we can isolate the area, disinfect and stop the spread. i have seen it with my own eyes.
Thanks for this thoughtful and interesting article. We've been studying biology with our homeschooled kiddo this year, thus, as soon as you began talking about vesicles in the cell carrying RNA, I said, "why, yes, of course! Those look just like viruses!"
I am very interested to learn about the biological activity of RNA aside from it simply being used in protein manufacture. I noticed RNA is in a couple of the herb/vitamin mixtures that I use for immune support when I'm sick with flu or colds.
Thank you for saying the quiet part out loud. I too have discussed the distraction of the "virology" and "no virus" camps with Dr Mike, and he has more patience and perhaps a nobler fight than mine. Both camps are wrong, and both camps are right....from a certain point of view.😉
At a clinical level, what helps my patients more? Is me explaining the nuance of both views in a way yhat they can accept and use to take control of their health, instead of being passive victims of both the allooathic and/or alternative models of medicine. One cannot heal without cleaning the fish bowl, but one also cannot afford to buy health in a bottle forever, in liu of addressing the root cause, or light.😉
Here's the thing - no one is completely immune to anything & everything. Anyone can indeed get sick, yes from viruses and contagions. But yes, always start with terrain.
Thank you. We’ve been so thoroughly lied to, about most things, that we’re just trying to grasp at reality! What’s real anymore?! Where’s the truth? A tug of war of the mind. Everyone pointing fingers and yelling, “ you’re lying”, “you’re wrong”! Controlled opposition throwing curve balls purposefully. Subtle manipulation of words as you mentioned….slight of hand. Many heads of scientific journals have seemingly found their morals and are just now coming forward admitting that these “studies”, for decades, are less than ethical and truthful. I’d guess the threat of death might have kept them from it before….or money. Both. Everything has a price apparently. These are experts at having these studies come to whatever conclusion deemed necessary to bring in the most money for a long line of pockets, and we’ve been brainwashed our entire lives to “trust the experts”! Yet they’ve been sickening and killing us off as an agenda! Most people are scared, confused, and looking for any answer that makes sense to their overwhelmed minds. It’s another thing they counted on happening…..mass confusion. It’s working.
Dr. Yeadon knows exactly how it works, he agrees with you, but so many have become confused about what you just articulated. Translation of his stance has been muddled.
So, thank you. That was very clear to me. I hope those that are questioning and doubting, like I am, will read this. At least it’s one aspect of this nightmare that has some clarity. Bless you.
Mike Yeadon is unique. Unlike the other covid contrarians, he has been prepared to question his assumptions the whole way through, and approach these problems with humility and integrity.
Thanks for this contribution to the virus discussion. Those of us who challenge the evidence to claim that viruses do not exist in the way they are described in ‘virological science’ can refute all the claims made for the existence of viruses and in a scientific way. This was done by Dr. Stefan Lanka. His work has been repeated with the same results. The virologists NEVER carry out the necessary control experiments to be able to say their work is scientific. If they did they would refute themselves.
I think it is important to say that if claims are made for a thing to exist and then if those claims are taken to be fact and if those claims are then used as the prima facie basis by governments and other actors to mandate highly damaging destructive medical protocols across global populations then such an outrage should be called out at the foundational level. This is not a distraction at all. This is massive scientific fraud and it is criminal activity. So it needs to be called out as such.
Another point here is that ‘virology’ is also the foundation for sequencing and genetics - another total can of worms based on what certainly look like fake science. Where is the evidence for the depiction of genetic material as a ‘double helix’ ?
Well, double helix wasn’t generated by virologists. Depending on your interpretation of historical evidence, x-rays were used to generate projections of the structure of intranuclear material.
Again, I’m not arguing that we definitely know that DNA and RNA exists as proposed.
The question is, if cells store and transmit information for the production of its effector semi-conductors (aka proteins), then what does this information represent.
If they do not do that, we now have to wrestle with another question: How DO cells exist?
This puts us at a completely different juncture than simply “viruses do not exist.”
the dialectic of nature alive - the organism
To remove a symptom without addressing the underlying contradiction is to destabilize the organism’s hard-won equilibrium.
The vegetative system stands in a dialectical relation to the entire organism—and to itself. A contradiction within vegetative regulation does not remain localized. It is mirrored across all levels of organization.
At the somatic level, contradiction appears as chronic tension, collapse, asymmetry, or restricted movement.
At the affective level, it appears as emotional blunting, volatility, or persistent unease.
At the cognitive level, it appears as fixation, rumination, or narrowed perception of possibility.
Simultaneously, the organism develops secondary compensations—postural strategies, behavioral patterns, relational defenses, and explanatory narratives—that attempt to support the primary vegetative compromise.
These compensations become integrated into identity. What began as a regulatory necessity is experienced as “who I am.”
Thus, the organism is not only shaped by contradiction; it actively organizes around it.
Compensation is therefore not secondary to disorder—it is the organism’s solution to an impossible regulatory task.
A symptom is the visible or experiential trace of this compensation. It is not the contradiction itself, but the form the contradiction takes once stabilized. Anxiety, depression, chronic pain, dissociation, fatigue, and cognitive rigidity are not primary phenomena. They are the phenomenological expressions of vegetative compensation.
This is why symptoms are so persistent. They are not foreign intrusions into the organism but necessary outcomes of its attempt to regulate under constrained conditions.
The organism always chooses the best possible solution available to it—but the range of solutions depends on the breadth of opportunity. When opportunity is narrow, contradiction hardens into compensation. When opportunity expands, compensation becomes unnecessary.
Vegetative training works by expanding this field of opportunity at its source. By restoring access to spontaneous regulatory movements, it allows contradictions to be metabolized rather than managed. What changes is not will, insight, or belief, but the conditions under which choice becomes possible at all.
Exposing dualism is the lifesaver
Dualism is indeed a psychopathic binary reality orientation— a helpless, control-fixated religious belief dressed up as “reason” or “faith.”
https://vegetativetraining.wordpress.com/the-religion-of-the-tyrant-wearing-the-mask-of-reason-of-faith-of-progress/
You are right about that of course. However, virology follows a reductionist / materialist view of disease and an explanation for it which puts all the focus on the cell as the most important and determining unit of life. This is then brought into genetics and results in the idea that 'genetic mistakes' are a source of disease without there being any scientific proof of this.
It is rather easy to see from 100+ years of failed contagion experiments that viral transmission does not occur, so the commonly held — the 'consensus' disease model can't be correct. An alternative model, that of Germanic New Medicine, focuses on tissues and sees 'symptoms' as a biological healing response to conflict in the organism arising mainly from trauma. This theory /explanation of disease has been known for centuries and is practiced in China but suppressed in the west where 'healthcare' is based on a reductionist / mechanical model of health which requires belief in external pathogens as disease causing agents and suppression of symptoms using pharmaceutical drugs, an approach which has serious problems and contradictions.
> Can you “isolate” a computer virus?
Definitely, of course you can.
> A psychologic virus?
In the domain of psychology itself, of course you can. It's psychological, not biological, so you cannot isolate it as a biological entity.
You are probably trying to make the point that a virus is not a biological entity but something else, information I guess. Possibly, but I don't follow the argument after that.
On one hand you state: "It is true that the process by which viruses are “isolated” is full of holes, and does not hold up to scrutiny."
But then you make strong affirmations like: "Below is a diagram of a virus. This virus has a genetic code at the core (RNA or DNA) and is surrounded by some combination of lipid/protein capsules/envelopes. The nature of the “capsomer” and envelope vary from virus to virus. Some have one layer of protection. Some have two. And all manner of combinations."
How do you know what a virus is if it was not isolated properly?
How would you isolate a psychological virus? Is that tangible evidence to the standard of those required by the “viruses do not exist” crowd?
I know what viruses are, regardless of how people would like to depict them.
My point in comparing the diagrams is to show how similar the proposed structure of a virus is to the alleged process of vesicular trafficking, in the language of the biologists themselves. To show that, even in their own language, these two things are indistinguishable.
How can we know what viruses are if they haven't been isolated? We have theories, not the same thing.
my point is that if you want to claim that viruses do not exist, as I have described them, then we need to answer much more important questions.
Specifically, do living cells store and transmit information used for the production of the proteins used in carrying out its functions?
If yes, then genetic code exists. If it does, then viruses are just packets of this code.
If not, then how do cells make proteins?
It's not about claiming that viruses don't exist. Virology seems to be based on a hallucination, that's the problem. Any discussion about viruses has to come to terms with that. We don't need to answer any questions in order to question the current theory
The deeper problem of “virus hooey”
is these “diagrams” and colorized depictions employed and accepted as actual mechanistic explanations — as if such depictions correspond to “how it is at molecular level” not even close. they are necessarily deliberate misrepresentations. the mangling of causation is how “virology” and scamdemic is perpetrated
When you refer something as “unnatural” I become moderately agitated. Can you provide an example of unnatural occurring in nature? Otherwise enjoyable read. Need to read Hans Selye. The OG of Stress
Thanks!
Spike protein, and its effect on ACE2. Spike was in both in COVID and the vaccine. It was definitely some kind of contagion, and shedding was real too.
Saccharomyces cerevisiae is a yeast not a virus....
Oh, boy….yes, I should add i’m referring to the virus discovered in S. Cerevisiae early on in the article, rather than later. Thanks.
Thank you for these conversations. The carbon narrative didn’t sit well with me and I’ve been educating myself about regenerative ag and soil. During covid era, which did not sit well either, I signed up for Soilfoodweb schools programs and got a microscope.
When looking with my own eyes at soil biology, what biologically active soil compost looks like, I was a changed man. With soil biology being the basis of pretty much all life above ground, seeing how plants respond to healthy soil and fight off pests and pathogens, have nutrient density, strong seed etc etc, the reality that we are a part of nature, not separate from. We too need quality nutrition for our own vitality, it’s a no brainer.
So in healthy soil where billions of interactions happen between the plants exuding sugars to feed the microbes to mine the sand, silts and clays for the nutrients the plant needs at that moment. chemical
signalling is happening in spades. Epigenetic effects from these chemical signals and the interaction with viruses as packets of info playing a role here too. Pathogens can be outcompeted by the good guys. If conditions change, maybe the pathogens can take advantage.
Foundational health is no different and it starts with the soil, what the plants eat, who eats that plant and what we eat. If we are nourished by good food and the associated microbes that come with, we will also build our castle wall to prevent pathogens, in whatever form, from setting up house.
So I come here to learn about a more holistic, natural way to be healthy and not only listen to big pharma or big ag. Life begets life. Not a pill for every ill.
So keep it coming so I can wade through this information battle informed.
I’m agree that it’s a distraction. I also feel like they simply changed the name of virus to toxin, even admitting that if someone is detoxifying it can cause someone else to detoxify. So basically the same phenomenon—different term.
"I’m agree that it’s a distraction."
That's like saying the debate over the realness/ fakeness of 'unicorns' is a distraction.
I mean in the context of a worldwide shut down of the economy for more than a year and a unicorn repellant spray program which has killed 15+ million people and caused many more injuries and disabilities and which may have sterilised an entire generation (we will find out in 20 years time).
The most basic and uncontroversial virology control experiments (using the same CROs that big pharma uses) has utterly blown apart the claim that 'viruses' are anything more than inert cellular debris.
They are nothing burgers which have been used as patsies for the most despicable crimes in the modern era.
To call this deception 'a distraction' is an insult to the billions who have been killed and injured by this most evil perversion of science. The level of suffering and loss caused by this 'distraction' is beyond comprehension and will have repercussions for generations to come, if not centuries.
All of it could have been avoided by simply listening to the 'no virus' / ' no contagion' camp as they tried to warn the public of this science fraud in the late 1800's .... the early 20th century..... the late 20th century.... the early 2000's and finally in 2020.
Instead society chose to ignore them, mostly because nobody wanted to be labelled a 'virus denier'.
Wow, you really are getting to be quite the master of nuance. “Packets of information”, I’d never have thought of that, but it rings so true when I read it. I recall mentioning that when I’ve challenged (known, not bots) ‘no virus’ people stating I am proponent of terrain theory, but I still feel even if virus particles hadn’t been isolated, that didn’t mean there was nothing (like no microorganism) acting like a virus or whatever anyone wishes to label it. Despite the fact that they are real people, they never respond to that. But your “packets of information” is so much more all-encompassing and reflective of the amazing way nature works, and accurate which I can now see. Also, though you cited some technicalities, your explanation was still easy to read/understand. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for taking this one on! I will read your article thoroughly, but I have believed it is another distraction campaign away from the truth (little t) for a long time. I am a veterinarian and have witnessed viral epidemics sweep through kennels of dogs and cats, litters of puppies and kittens. so yes, something is being transmitted killing these animals. we can isolate the area, disinfect and stop the spread. i have seen it with my own eyes.
Excellent.
Thanks for this thoughtful and interesting article. We've been studying biology with our homeschooled kiddo this year, thus, as soon as you began talking about vesicles in the cell carrying RNA, I said, "why, yes, of course! Those look just like viruses!"
I am very interested to learn about the biological activity of RNA aside from it simply being used in protein manufacture. I noticed RNA is in a couple of the herb/vitamin mixtures that I use for immune support when I'm sick with flu or colds.
check out microRNA and short-interfering (siRNA) to get you started.
Thank you for saying the quiet part out loud. I too have discussed the distraction of the "virology" and "no virus" camps with Dr Mike, and he has more patience and perhaps a nobler fight than mine. Both camps are wrong, and both camps are right....from a certain point of view.😉
At a clinical level, what helps my patients more? Is me explaining the nuance of both views in a way yhat they can accept and use to take control of their health, instead of being passive victims of both the allooathic and/or alternative models of medicine. One cannot heal without cleaning the fish bowl, but one also cannot afford to buy health in a bottle forever, in liu of addressing the root cause, or light.😉
Here's the thing - no one is completely immune to anything & everything. Anyone can indeed get sick, yes from viruses and contagions. But yes, always start with terrain.
Well said.
Thank you. We’ve been so thoroughly lied to, about most things, that we’re just trying to grasp at reality! What’s real anymore?! Where’s the truth? A tug of war of the mind. Everyone pointing fingers and yelling, “ you’re lying”, “you’re wrong”! Controlled opposition throwing curve balls purposefully. Subtle manipulation of words as you mentioned….slight of hand. Many heads of scientific journals have seemingly found their morals and are just now coming forward admitting that these “studies”, for decades, are less than ethical and truthful. I’d guess the threat of death might have kept them from it before….or money. Both. Everything has a price apparently. These are experts at having these studies come to whatever conclusion deemed necessary to bring in the most money for a long line of pockets, and we’ve been brainwashed our entire lives to “trust the experts”! Yet they’ve been sickening and killing us off as an agenda! Most people are scared, confused, and looking for any answer that makes sense to their overwhelmed minds. It’s another thing they counted on happening…..mass confusion. It’s working.
Dr. Yeadon knows exactly how it works, he agrees with you, but so many have become confused about what you just articulated. Translation of his stance has been muddled.
So, thank you. That was very clear to me. I hope those that are questioning and doubting, like I am, will read this. At least it’s one aspect of this nightmare that has some clarity. Bless you.
You are most welcome.
Mike Yeadon is unique. Unlike the other covid contrarians, he has been prepared to question his assumptions the whole way through, and approach these problems with humility and integrity.
Yeadon's new video on Substack hits all cylinders: vaxxes, finance and dig'tal ID.
https://stopthoseshots.substack.com/p/oracle-films-final-warning-by-dr?r=b9mq5&utm_medium=ios
Thank You.
Do I exist? No proof.
But the cartoons…
Exactly! Another case of confusing a model with reality.