If you do not mind, i am sharing this oath with my folowing of veterinarians and pet parents, as it is as applicable to veterinary medicine as it is to human medicine. And we are in as much trouble as the human medical field. We are getting all the meds that have failed or injured humans dumped upon the animals.
There was something in the darkened history of humanity that made us put doctors, lawyers and politicians under oath, and it’s not because those three classes of professionals are so honest.
The way the Oath has devolved since its inception mirrors the dissolution of medicine's moral core. Whereas the original Oath appealed to deities, i.e. to transcendent moral entities they cherished (whether their deities differed from ours is irrelevant), the 1964 revision by Louis Lasagna stated "I must not play at God." For the original Oath's "I will take care that they [the sick] suffer no hurt or damage," Lasagna substituted the mealy-mouthed tautology about "avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism." A typical current Oath uttered by woke med students now—I use my own school, Columbia, as an example—mentions neither God nor duty to avoid harming one's own patients but rather obligations to redress past harms caused by societal oppression. Folks, if you value your lives more than your pronouns
Hello to you all! On May 13th there will be an international event for all of those who suffered from this horrendous last few years. The most visible victims are the ones dead or maimed by the shots and those who died from untreated cv or other infections and diseases, who did not fit well to the narrative.
But there are many of us who suffered in various ways - discrimination, insults, being outcast from the workplace, public life and places, or simply put in repeated lockdowns.
Could you please share if there is anything planned in your country / region / town? It would be interesting and we still have the time to use and improve creative ideas, so that it could not get silenced and would not go unnoticed.
No harm must be from the time of conception to natural death. When Hippocrates lived, this was the understanding. Abortion and euthanasia are the anthesis of non cocere. It's not complicated.
I agree that a doctor should generally not prescribe for abortion or euthanasia.
However the freedom of the individual should also be held to a high if not higher standard. Assisted suicide seems like doing good for the patient, euthanasia is a different thing that should be avoided. Contraception certainly is doing good for the patient. The morning after pill would get a pass from me.
Abortion I can take very little stand on because I believe it is an issue between a mother and her maker and society should mostly keep their nose out. The fact that it has been politicised is not that half of people are evil and half are in the better political party but it is a handy way of dividing people from their peers. It should be left to be decided by a mother and their care giver with guidance or counselling but it should never be a political thing as doing so means you are forcing your will on another by mob rule.
Basically there are not many cases where a woman will plan to get pregnant just so they can have an abortion, the stakes are high enough to filer out most frivolous use cases.
Sadly in Finland it is no longer required to swear the Hippocratic/doctor's oath.
Thank you for writing this canonical reminder of what our roots are in medicine. We are so far from that as a profession it’s scary. It’s surreal reading this as my Canadian (ontario) medical licence is currently suspended for upholding my oath. The inverse of the Hippocratic oath is our current majority reality. But, the declaration of duty to the gods is key. Regulatory bodies or the government do not have the authority to interfere with upholding that duty. Regulators are meant to protect the public from the very actions they themselves are doing and enforcing unlawfully. Colleges are inserting themselves in the centre of the sacred physician-patient relationship. They’ve threatened reprisal for any physician who actually practices by the Hippocratic oath. What a terrible crisis to actually be in. What’s unnerving to me, is that the courts are going to be ultimately deciding on the validity of this duty, this godly practice and relationship of authority, and of patient rights.
If you do not mind, i am sharing this oath with my folowing of veterinarians and pet parents, as it is as applicable to veterinary medicine as it is to human medicine. And we are in as much trouble as the human medical field. We are getting all the meds that have failed or injured humans dumped upon the animals.
There was something in the darkened history of humanity that made us put doctors, lawyers and politicians under oath, and it’s not because those three classes of professionals are so honest.
to complete my post: Folks, if you value your lives more than your pronouns, avoid any MDs who graduated med school after 2020.
You can add "avoid any veterinarians" to that list.
The way the Oath has devolved since its inception mirrors the dissolution of medicine's moral core. Whereas the original Oath appealed to deities, i.e. to transcendent moral entities they cherished (whether their deities differed from ours is irrelevant), the 1964 revision by Louis Lasagna stated "I must not play at God." For the original Oath's "I will take care that they [the sick] suffer no hurt or damage," Lasagna substituted the mealy-mouthed tautology about "avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism." A typical current Oath uttered by woke med students now—I use my own school, Columbia, as an example—mentions neither God nor duty to avoid harming one's own patients but rather obligations to redress past harms caused by societal oppression. Folks, if you value your lives more than your pronouns
An oath made to pagan gods. What do you expect?
Yaaa 👍
Let's hope that the alternative health care rising from the grass roots will re-adopt the Hippocratic oath.
Trying to mix the healing and the killing destroys the "placebo effect", and that's been the hugest fail for the system.
I'm down with Apollo. https://romanshapoval.substack.com/p/how-to-treat-emf-radiation-part-1
Doc, you will find this a very refreshing read
https://vegetativetraining.wordpress.com/physicians-have-had-their-day-a-profession-abolishes-itself/
Hello to you all! On May 13th there will be an international event for all of those who suffered from this horrendous last few years. The most visible victims are the ones dead or maimed by the shots and those who died from untreated cv or other infections and diseases, who did not fit well to the narrative.
But there are many of us who suffered in various ways - discrimination, insults, being outcast from the workplace, public life and places, or simply put in repeated lockdowns.
Could you please share if there is anything planned in your country / region / town? It would be interesting and we still have the time to use and improve creative ideas, so that it could not get silenced and would not go unnoticed.
Thank you all!
Thank you Oana. Do you have a link for this event?
Hello, it's not a fancy one, but here it is:
https://webearwitnesstoadverseevents.over-blog.com/contact
No harm must be from the time of conception to natural death. When Hippocrates lived, this was the understanding. Abortion and euthanasia are the anthesis of non cocere. It's not complicated.
Agree Dr Anne McCloskey 🙌🏼
I agree that a doctor should generally not prescribe for abortion or euthanasia.
However the freedom of the individual should also be held to a high if not higher standard. Assisted suicide seems like doing good for the patient, euthanasia is a different thing that should be avoided. Contraception certainly is doing good for the patient. The morning after pill would get a pass from me.
Abortion I can take very little stand on because I believe it is an issue between a mother and her maker and society should mostly keep their nose out. The fact that it has been politicised is not that half of people are evil and half are in the better political party but it is a handy way of dividing people from their peers. It should be left to be decided by a mother and their care giver with guidance or counselling but it should never be a political thing as doing so means you are forcing your will on another by mob rule.
Basically there are not many cases where a woman will plan to get pregnant just so they can have an abortion, the stakes are high enough to filer out most frivolous use cases.
Sadly in Finland it is no longer required to swear the Hippocratic/doctor's oath.
Thank you for writing this canonical reminder of what our roots are in medicine. We are so far from that as a profession it’s scary. It’s surreal reading this as my Canadian (ontario) medical licence is currently suspended for upholding my oath. The inverse of the Hippocratic oath is our current majority reality. But, the declaration of duty to the gods is key. Regulatory bodies or the government do not have the authority to interfere with upholding that duty. Regulators are meant to protect the public from the very actions they themselves are doing and enforcing unlawfully. Colleges are inserting themselves in the centre of the sacred physician-patient relationship. They’ve threatened reprisal for any physician who actually practices by the Hippocratic oath. What a terrible crisis to actually be in. What’s unnerving to me, is that the courts are going to be ultimately deciding on the validity of this duty, this godly practice and relationship of authority, and of patient rights.
Well said.