Hello Doctor, loved reading this. I am from India And would like to share some insights on temperament which resembles Prakruti (nature of individual) in Ayurved medicine (Ancient Indian scientific system of medicine) which is still thriving and as relevant as it was 5000 years ago! I am an ayurved doctor and we assess patient on basis of their individual prakruti which you can say is their own unique internal environment and how it reacts to external factors. You mentioned temperament as hot cold wet and dry. We know these qualities as Gunas (properties of any substance that is consumable)
Hot as Ushna quality
Cold as Sheeta quality
Wet as Snigdha quality
Dry as Ruksha quality
There are 20 such qualities of substances that can be used as medicines described by sage Charaka in Charaka Samhita. It is in Sanskrit language. I can go on and on about how vast Ayurved science is and how meticulously it is structured to heal human body.
Best read would be ‘ Unveiling the truths in Ayurveda’ by Dr Rajkumar. It is available on sbeba.org website and it explores Ayurvedic diagnosis and medicine in depth. You can join SBEBA ( Science based evidence based Ayurved) group on Facebook named ‘ SBEBA wisdom series’ where they share fair amount of naturally healed cases of autoimmune diseases and lifestyle diseases.
Hence proved...not one doctor in the system could figure it out. This wasn't merely bout getting the diagnosis wrong. This is all about how none of them could (or wanted to) think beyond the typical playbook.
That’s very interesting to think of allopathy as the odd one out. I had considered it more like Thomas Kahn’s model of science. The current incomplete model being replaced by a new incomplete model.
2. Most cures of diseases aren't caused by approved medicines.
Eg. From a cure perspective, most of our medicines don't work. What does work cannot be patented and sold for profit - so it can't be approved. If we dared to count cured cases, this becomes obvious. It would also become obvious that, in many cases, so-called alternative practitioners cure more cases than do conventional ones.
I’ve commented on numerous occasions about how incredibly enlightened your thinking is, particularly for someone trained in a conventional western medical framework. Almost everything you write is valid and holistic. One thing I’m not quite on the same page about in this piece is that doctors know that most of what they are doing isn’t really helping, and that it’s more about managing disease or merely symptom relief. Maybe you’re right, maybe deep down they do know. But I’ve seen a lot of doctors acting like they’re some kind of saviours, and I’ve also come across doctors who are so indoctrinated that they simply cannot consider anything outside of their narrow perspectives because they think they’re represent science.
It might simply be that some doctors are overloaded and find that arrogance is a very effective technique with many patients. Success succeeds, multiplies, reproduces, and evolved.
I'll say this about your contention: ego-defense manifests in many ways.
Sometimes it's at work defending against external judgement, and sometimes it's defending against the conscience.
Both happen very often.
I have had countless interactions with colleagues in which I'll slip in the notion that most of what we are doing in general, or in a specific case, is useless...to which they will half-laugh and half-agree.
Thank you for taking trouble to reply and for your further insight. I can only look at things from outside, but your insider knowledge is adds to my more expanded understanding. I mean I never considered that point about defending the conscience; but on reflection, it makes sense.
1. Root cause is a fiction. Every cause has a cause, there is no root.
2. The important causes of a case of illness is its cure-cause. Those causes which, when successfully addressed, result in a cured illness.
3. Most cases of illness are trivial, having a single cure-cause, and are easily cured without a doctor.
4. Most cases of disease are complex and compound causes often interlinked. That's why we need doctors to help us cure them.
5. Most doctors are never taught to recognize "cured." No doctor, medical clinic, hospital, medical system, or insurance company dates to coins "cured" cases. To do so would reveal the truth. Most cured are trivial and most non trivial cures are not medical. As a result, most doctors avoid the word cure and teach their staff to do the same.
"No doctor, medical clinic, hospital, medical system, or insurance company dares to count 'cured cases'.
Have you ever had an illness - and been cured? I've had many. Have you ever been cured by a mother, a doctor, a dentist, an alternative medical practitioner, by researching on the internet, or by figuring it out yourself? Have you ever been cured by eating a good, avoiding a food, or vomiting a good? I have. Many times. Most cases did not involve any doctor. Many of my cures were a result on medical intervention. But my many medical records do not contain the word "cured."
Doctors, conventional and alternative, are trained and train each other to avoid the word cure. Doctors are never taught to cure, even when they cure, no cured cases can be recognized, much less counted. Cured is not medically defined for most diseases and not defined for most cases of disease cured.
Cured cases are not counted, so cures don't count. Modern medicine is ignoring and thus ignorant of cures.
That helps tremendously. Great observation. I never realized how our health care system has completely abolished the word "cure" from their vocabulary. Fear of being sued may be the culprit as much as plain ignorance. Neither speaks well of modern medicine.
As an old surgeon I agree with your analyses and observations. Your idea that we inherit more than our genes is powerful. It also hints at something more: it's now well established that the genetic material in our microbiome is 9X our own chromosomes. In some ways, it seems WE are living on THEM. Or, maybe we're just this eon's spaceships for these life forms.
Either way, our symbiosis (mutual parasitism??), is part of the ecosystem, and may contribute to your Concept of Temperance.
"Doctors know…and they see it every day with their patients…that most of what they are doing isn’t really helping. It’s either “managing” their disease or just relieving their symptoms."
Can't wait for the Assessment. Years ago such an assessment was ridiculed, and now we all realize more reliance on body/mind feedback is diagnostically telling. "Thoughts Are Things" comes to mind, paradoxically - the hardest discipline of all asking- "are my thoughts subversive?"
Why are doctors still so tied to centralization? During the "pandemic", many feared going against MSM narratives and betrayed their own beliefs. On the other hand, they are intelligent enough to be open to and understand Bitcoin philosophy, which could liberate them from their fears.
Hello Doctor, loved reading this. I am from India And would like to share some insights on temperament which resembles Prakruti (nature of individual) in Ayurved medicine (Ancient Indian scientific system of medicine) which is still thriving and as relevant as it was 5000 years ago! I am an ayurved doctor and we assess patient on basis of their individual prakruti which you can say is their own unique internal environment and how it reacts to external factors. You mentioned temperament as hot cold wet and dry. We know these qualities as Gunas (properties of any substance that is consumable)
Hot as Ushna quality
Cold as Sheeta quality
Wet as Snigdha quality
Dry as Ruksha quality
There are 20 such qualities of substances that can be used as medicines described by sage Charaka in Charaka Samhita. It is in Sanskrit language. I can go on and on about how vast Ayurved science is and how meticulously it is structured to heal human body.
Thank you for sharing Vidita.
I've read some cursory material re: prana, seems like a similar concept.
What do you think would be the best material to start reading on Ayurveda, after seeing the types of ideas I am sharing on here?
Best read would be ‘ Unveiling the truths in Ayurveda’ by Dr Rajkumar. It is available on sbeba.org website and it explores Ayurvedic diagnosis and medicine in depth. You can join SBEBA ( Science based evidence based Ayurved) group on Facebook named ‘ SBEBA wisdom series’ where they share fair amount of naturally healed cases of autoimmune diseases and lifestyle diseases.
Hence proved...not one doctor in the system could figure it out. This wasn't merely bout getting the diagnosis wrong. This is all about how none of them could (or wanted to) think beyond the typical playbook.
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/healthy-uk-woman-24-dies-days-after-doctors-dismissed-her-rashes-as-allergies-9408662
That’s very interesting to think of allopathy as the odd one out. I had considered it more like Thomas Kahn’s model of science. The current incomplete model being replaced by a new incomplete model.
"The answer is refinement."
The answer to ALL chronic disease, none of which is a natural health issue.
Frankly, I think the two main reasons are
1. Most medicines don't cure any disease.
2. Most cures of diseases aren't caused by approved medicines.
Eg. From a cure perspective, most of our medicines don't work. What does work cannot be patented and sold for profit - so it can't be approved. If we dared to count cured cases, this becomes obvious. It would also become obvious that, in many cases, so-called alternative practitioners cure more cases than do conventional ones.
I’ve commented on numerous occasions about how incredibly enlightened your thinking is, particularly for someone trained in a conventional western medical framework. Almost everything you write is valid and holistic. One thing I’m not quite on the same page about in this piece is that doctors know that most of what they are doing isn’t really helping, and that it’s more about managing disease or merely symptom relief. Maybe you’re right, maybe deep down they do know. But I’ve seen a lot of doctors acting like they’re some kind of saviours, and I’ve also come across doctors who are so indoctrinated that they simply cannot consider anything outside of their narrow perspectives because they think they’re represent science.
It might simply be that some doctors are overloaded and find that arrogance is a very effective technique with many patients. Success succeeds, multiplies, reproduces, and evolved.
I'll say this about your contention: ego-defense manifests in many ways.
Sometimes it's at work defending against external judgement, and sometimes it's defending against the conscience.
Both happen very often.
I have had countless interactions with colleagues in which I'll slip in the notion that most of what we are doing in general, or in a specific case, is useless...to which they will half-laugh and half-agree.
Deep down, they know.
Thank you for taking trouble to reply and for your further insight. I can only look at things from outside, but your insider knowledge is adds to my more expanded understanding. I mean I never considered that point about defending the conscience; but on reflection, it makes sense.
This is where the burnout becomes the most insidious and difficult to root out.
We are constantly fed non-sense about “taking time for yourself” and doing “wellness” activities to mitigate burnout.
You cannot mitigate haram money with these distractions.
FIVE LESSONS DOCTORS ARE NEVER TAUGHT?
1. Root cause is a fiction. Every cause has a cause, there is no root.
2. The important causes of a case of illness is its cure-cause. Those causes which, when successfully addressed, result in a cured illness.
3. Most cases of illness are trivial, having a single cure-cause, and are easily cured without a doctor.
4. Most cases of disease are complex and compound causes often interlinked. That's why we need doctors to help us cure them.
5. Most doctors are never taught to recognize "cured." No doctor, medical clinic, hospital, medical system, or insurance company dates to coins "cured" cases. To do so would reveal the truth. Most cured are trivial and most non trivial cures are not medical. As a result, most doctors avoid the word cure and teach their staff to do the same.
To your health, trscy
With all due respect, you type the way a doctor writes a prescription. I don't understand what you are trying to say in #5. Can you correct the typos?
Thanks for pointing out the typos.
"No doctor, medical clinic, hospital, medical system, or insurance company dares to count 'cured cases'.
Have you ever had an illness - and been cured? I've had many. Have you ever been cured by a mother, a doctor, a dentist, an alternative medical practitioner, by researching on the internet, or by figuring it out yourself? Have you ever been cured by eating a good, avoiding a food, or vomiting a good? I have. Many times. Most cases did not involve any doctor. Many of my cures were a result on medical intervention. But my many medical records do not contain the word "cured."
Doctors, conventional and alternative, are trained and train each other to avoid the word cure. Doctors are never taught to cure, even when they cure, no cured cases can be recognized, much less counted. Cured is not medically defined for most diseases and not defined for most cases of disease cured.
Cured cases are not counted, so cures don't count. Modern medicine is ignoring and thus ignorant of cures.
Thanks for being so gracious.
That helps tremendously. Great observation. I never realized how our health care system has completely abolished the word "cure" from their vocabulary. Fear of being sued may be the culprit as much as plain ignorance. Neither speaks well of modern medicine.
Most diseases, and most cases of disease are cured by "not medicines" and "not medical treatments." Our "health care systems" fear exposure.
As an old surgeon I agree with your analyses and observations. Your idea that we inherit more than our genes is powerful. It also hints at something more: it's now well established that the genetic material in our microbiome is 9X our own chromosomes. In some ways, it seems WE are living on THEM. Or, maybe we're just this eon's spaceships for these life forms.
Either way, our symbiosis (mutual parasitism??), is part of the ecosystem, and may contribute to your Concept of Temperance.
Love your non-allopathic thinking.
"Love your non-allopathic thinking" - based on what you wrote, seems like it takes one to know one.
Such a great piece.
Thank you!
YES!!
"Doctors know…and they see it every day with their patients…that most of what they are doing isn’t really helping. It’s either “managing” their disease or just relieving their symptoms."
Can't wait for the Assessment. Years ago such an assessment was ridiculed, and now we all realize more reliance on body/mind feedback is diagnostically telling. "Thoughts Are Things" comes to mind, paradoxically - the hardest discipline of all asking- "are my thoughts subversive?"
Why are doctors still so tied to centralization? During the "pandemic", many feared going against MSM narratives and betrayed their own beliefs. On the other hand, they are intelligent enough to be open to and understand Bitcoin philosophy, which could liberate them from their fears.